sally beck

Reiner Fuellmich interviews journalist Sally Beck. Interview June 25th.

SPEAKERS

Reiner Fuellmich, Sally Beck, Vivienne, Viviane Fischer

Reiner Fuellmich  00:00

Sorry Sally to keep you waiting.

Sally Beck  00:03

Don’t worry.

Reiner Fuellmich  00:05

We’re close to our one year anniversary as the Berlin Corona Investigative Committee. I think in a couple of weeks from now, we’re going to be there. That’s not the reason why I why have a jacket on though. Can you introduce yourself so that we get a better impression of what you’re doing and who you are.

Sally Beck  00:28

Okay, so, my name is Sally Beck. I’m a freelance journalist working for mainstream media. For the last 10 to 15 years, I’ve focused on health journalism, as well as human interest journalism. I wrote my first national newspaper article in 1990. And I haven’t stopped writing for mainstream media all that time. And all that time. I haven’t written for any alternative media until Coronavirus. So now I find that I can’t get stories that feel newsworthy to me, published in mainstream media. So all my work on Coronavirus is being published by The Conservative Woman. So that’s basically my history. I was going to talk to you today about some of the families I spoken to who’ve lost loved ones after the Coronavirus. But a story has just emerged, which I just wanted to share with you, because it just highlights how people are just not being considered important in this whole exercise. So we have a vaccine damage payment unit. And I think you probably have to. The criteria for any kind of compensation is high, so you have to be 60 percent damaged, you have to be the one to prove that it was the vaccine that damaged you. It can’t be the vaccine manufacturers proving that it didn’t damage you. So all the onus of proof is on the damaged and the families of the damaged. But what’s come to light is that we’ve had 66 confirmed deaths from blood clotting post vaccination. And it seems there’s a question mark as to whether any of those families will get compensation which is set as £120,000 maximum. So even though those loved ones have died, and it’s on their death certificate that the vaccine was to blame, unless they can prove that they were 60 percent disabled before they died, it seems that the payout is being questioned. And I will share with you later in a private email Reiner private emails that have been passed to me from the Department of Work and Pensions that state that, and it is just not clear cut as to whether even if it says on your death certificate that you died from the vaccination, whether the family will be eligible for the £120 {thousand] pound compensation.

Reiner Fuellmich  03:46

When you’re saying that you had 66 confirmed deaths after vaccination does that mean that it’s confirmed that even causation is confirmed?

Sally Beck  03:59

Well, according to the Daily Mirror who published this story, they say that there have been 66 deaths confirmed blood clotting deaths, thrombosis deaths confirmed. And obviously we know that the total deaths so far are over 1300 that have been reported to the MHRA. And the MHRA confirmed to me in writing that they expect to get only 10 percent of the total of adverse reactions and deaths.

Reiner Fuellmich  04:39

Yeah in the United States –

Sally Beck  04:40

If somebody, they haven’t explained to me why if somebody dies within 28 days of receiving the vaccine, it’s not considered to be a vaccine death. I mean, the best that they can do is that well, people die all the time and it’s more than likely to be a coincidence.

Reiner Fuellmich  04:59

Okay let me translate that. Okay, Sally, that was a little bit longer this translation because Viviane added some additional findings from Europe, from Germany to this.

Sally Beck  05:12

Okay, so the next thing I’d like to talk to you about is we’ve heard the numbers for the deaths, but actually what is it like when somebody dies a death caused by one of the vaccines? What we know is that when they started vaccinating in the UK in December, deaths in care homes tripled in two weeks.

Viviane Fischer  05:42

Same here.

Sally Beck  05:45

And that was from January onwards. And those are official figures by our Office of National Statistics. And the reason that they’re giving for that increase in deaths is because the elderly had obviously contracted Coronavirus before they were given their injection. If you try to talk to anybody about advanced antibody dependent enhancement ADE there’s a kind of a blank, a blank look, people don’t really understand what that might be. And I know that there have been two arrests in a care home that suffered many deaths. And the care home manager is being blamed although they had no deaths before the vaccination programme started. I with the Daily Mail was investigating 19 deaths in a care home, but we couldn’t get any of the staff to talk, and we couldn’t get any of the families to talk so we couldn’t bring to light what had actually happened there. After the first reports I get so obviously we’re vaccinating from the oldest to the youngest. And when people who were not in care homes were beginning to get a vaccination, what was happening was the vaccination was setting off a chain reaction, so they would begin vomiting, they would suffer diarrhoea, that would aggravate maybe a small ulcer that they had that had been under control before the vaccine. And then I spoke to one family where the father died of a pulmonary embolism because he just vomited so much and had become dehydrated, and his body couldn’t take it. I think he had, he was diagnosed with dementia. But before he had his vaccination, he had some quality of life. The most tragic case I’ve spoken to is a 47 year old woman. So in the UK, we are vaccinating over 40s with the AstraZeneca vaccine. We’ve had one high profile death of a BBC presenter. I think she was 44. We had another death of a mother of three who was 43. And then I spoke to a family, again, a mother of three who was 47. And she was desperate to get her vaccine because she wanted to see friends and family. She had two grandchildren who had been born during lockdown and she hadn’t been able to touch them or kiss them. She just seen them in the car. She was a very sociable woman, according to her partner, you know, they went 100 yards to the shop, it would take 20 minutes because everyone wanted to stop and talk to her. She’d been a lay preacher. She read you know, she was widely read. They were a low income family. The husband or the fiance was earning the minimum wage, and they had a five year old son who they’d kept from starting school because they didn’t want him to come into contact with Coronavirus. So he started school a year later than he should have done. After her vaccine, she began to suffer pains in her side. She went to the doctor [and] the doctor thought it might be gallstones. Then a rash began to develop she began to feel really unwell. a rash began to develop on her face and neck and she sent photographs of the rash to our 111 service, which is the NHS non emergency number that you call. And they told her to go straight to accident and emergency. The doctors were baffled. They thought she might have measles. They thought she might have lupus. They thought she might have meningitis. They thought she might have septicemia. None of them were aware that it could have been a reaction to the vaccine,  because it hadn’t been flagged up to them. But because thankfully, Europe, so the 18 countries in Europe, who suspended the AstraZeneca flagged up to us that there could be a problem with blood clotting. Her platelet level dropped to two per microliter, and it should be between, it should be around 1500 at the lowest. They kept giving her transfusions and they’d managed to raise her levels slightly, but it just wouldn’t stay so clearly her immune system was attacking her platelets. She began having strokes. They decided that they needed to relieve the pressure on her brain because she had a blood clot on the brain. And when they made the incision into her skull, the pressure was so great that her brain began to ooze out of that incision. And it was then that they knew that they couldn’t save her. I think she was in hospital for 10 days, I can’t remember exactly. Her family hadn’t been allowed to see her. The last text that she sent to her fiance was “bored, but still alive.” And he was invited in when they turned off the life support machines to say goodbye to her. And he just held her hand and said, “You know, I promise I’ll look after our son, you know, don’t do this, don’t go, we want you to come home”. But everything was lost by then. And she she died after 10 minutes. That family has been plunged into poverty. So although the fiance’s work have been really supportive, he is on the minimum wage as a metal worker, and he’s had to cut down his hours so that he can look after his son, you know, obviously his son has lost his mum. He wants to make the impact of that as limited as he can, so he’s only working part time. And he’s now thinking of going to live in a commune so that he can get some support, basically, support with what he needs to do for his son, support for what he needs to do for himself. And basically, you know, I guess he just doesn’t want to be alone, really.

Reiner Fuellmich  13:33

I’ll translate that. She wasn’t anti vaccine, and she kept the child out of school because she was afraid that he would catch Corona, right?

Reiner Fuellmich  13:43

Yeah, that’s right and she was really strict with the rules. So she wouldn’t allow anyone in the house. Her partner who’s older than her had the Pfizer vaccine. She couldn’t wait until she got hers and it was given to her at one of the vaccine pop ups, so it was in a shopping centre car park. And they didn’t really ask her many questions. They didn’t ask her many health questions. But after she died, apparently that same vaccine pop up began to be really diligent about asking people questions before they gave them the vaccine. She was only given a leaflet that said if you get a headache or a fever, you know, and it doesn’t go away, then contact your GP but none of the other symptoms that she experienced were flagged up.

Reiner Fuellmich  14:48

So that’s informed consent. Hmm.

Sally Beck  14:51

That’s informed consent yeah. And I’m sure she wasn’t told it was an experimental vaccine that had only been given emergency use.

Reiner Fuellmich  15:04

Yeah, we were seeing this, we’re seeing the very same thing here. We’re actually seeing the authorities advising doctors to disregard the stico, which is a special agency that advises the government on whether or not a certain vaccine should be used or not. So what the authorities are doing, and this agency has recommended not to vaccinate children. But now we’re seeing certain governmental agencies advising doctors to disregard this advice. So this is, it’s a lockstep approach that we’re experiencing.

Reiner Fuellmich  15:48

It’s like a juggernaut, it’s like trying to stop a juggernaut. You know, it’s like being a feather in front of a juggernaut. This morning we had reports. The BBC is pushing vaccination really hard, really, really hard. They’ve been pushing it for children, even though our joint committee for vaccination and immunisation have not yet recommended vaccination for the 12 to 17 year olds, although the MHRA have said, “Yes, it’s fine by us, but it’s your decision.” But what we’re hearing now are that our accident and emergency departments are overwhelmed. This is despite 70 percent of our population being vaccinated. And they’re overwhelmed with children –

Reiner Fuellmich  16:40

– did you say 70 seven zero?

Sally Beck  16:41

Yeah, I think 70 [percent] have had a first vaccine. And I’m not sure of the figures that  have had a second, but I think it’s probably around 50 [percent]. I can confirm that to you later. But apparently, A&E is full of children with respiratory symptoms, who according to the BBC, can be treated at home. But I don’t know if you spoke to Geert Vanden Bossche, who worked for the Gates Foundation, who worked on developing the Ebola vaccine, who worked for GlaxoSmithKline. I interviewed him and his biggest concern was that if we vaccinated during a pandemic, the vaccine would not be able to infect older people any longer so it would jump into younger, the younger generation, and that seems to be what we’re seeing now. And that is highly likely to be used as an excuse to vaccinate children. I posted from The Defender last night who I know you’re probably aware of, the first death that I’ve seen of a 13 year old. That was a mio carditis type death, previously healthy. So that’s what we’re seeing here at the moment. The BBC, I complained when they began pushing the vaccine to pregnant women. And I’d spoken to Pfizer, we only had the Pfizer vaccine then, I’d spoken to Pfizer who said that they had not completed their reproduction toxicology report. And they had not started studies in pregnant women. They libelled Mike Yeadon on air, and then was it during a woman’s hour programme, and I wrote about this for The Conservative Woman. But they then had to edit the programme afterwards to remove the libel. The BBC were on, they had a doctor a very high profile professor from Scotland on a children’s programme called Newsround. It’s a news programme who was telling children it was 100 percent safe to get the vaccine. Somebody complained on Twitter to the BBC and the BBC then removed that from the online programme and published an apology on the online programme. But obviously, the children had already seen it, they’re not going to go back and look at it again. They didn’t broadcast it again with the correction. So they really are pushing it hard for children, and the propaganda that we’ve seen that’s being shown to children in schools produced by the Stephen Hawking Institute has horrific pictures of children covered with smallpox, one who is paralysed from tetanus. And it’s just not the same thing. And this is the propaganda that’s being used with children to tell them that they need to get their vaccines, it doesn’t matter if their parents don’t want them to have it or not, I’m sure there’ll be rolling it out in schools, like they roll out the HPV vaccine, and now they add more vaccines in with the HPV.

Reiner Fuellmich  20:49

I’ll translate that. You’re saying the accident and emergency care units or the accidents and emergency places, they are full with children who suffered damage after getting vaccinated? Is that correct?

Reiner Fuellmich  21:08

No, that’s not right. So the A&E is full of children who are presenting with respiratory symptoms, but not serious respiratory symptoms. But because of the fear factor that’s been pushed on parents, they don’t want to take any risks so they’re taking the children to accident and emergency and we’ve had two hospitals declare, I think it’s called code black, which means they are absolutely at tipping point, and almost unable to cope.

Reiner Fuellmich  21:43

Okay, I’ll quickly correct that then. You know, the thing is that we spoke with Simone Gold, who founded America’s Frontline Doctors, and she told us that this enormous push is putting people off in the United States. They’re running into a wall right now. And unlike in England, and here in Germany, they have hit a wall, a brick wall, so to speak, because more and more people refuse to get vaccinated. There’s all kinds of efforts, all kinds of financial incentives, even ice cream being offered to children to get vaccinated, but people refuse to get vaccinated. I think the whole thing stopped at maybe 42 43 percent or so of the population. But you’re talking about 70 percent of the population in Great Britain having gotten vaccinated. But that’s the first shot right? Do you know how many?

Reiner Fuellmich  22:44

Yeah I think it’s about 70 [percent]. When you’re next do your translation, I will look up the exact figures for you, so we have the exact figures.

Reiner Fuellmich  22:54

Okay.

Sally Beck  22:55

But I think it’s 70 [percent] for the first shot and 50 [percent] for the second but I will double check that okay. The other thing –

Vivienne  23:06

Yeah, I would like to add something that I saw in Austria which is you know, goes in the same direction like what you said about the lowering children into, to maybe getting vaccinated, they had a campaign where they suggested like in Vienna, you know, that children should go [get] vaccinate[d] and just bring your parents along, so it’s going to be like a family day out kind of fun kind of thing. It’s really amazing, you know, like, if we have these kids talk about this, and it seems to be you know like getting accepted so quite a few people get like to believe it. And then there was a video which I also found quite amazing. They showed it to me, I couldn’t believe my eyes. It’s a song baby lessons infant. Baby let’s get vaccinated. Then you have like people I think they said to me, the Austrian said it cost like 1 million euros, the protection. And so you have people dancing around and saying, let’s get vaccinated, it’s the way back to freedom. And then also the do you know when it says, come trust me, trust me to get the shot. This kind of thing. It’s amazing, but this also caused a little bit of a stir so people weren’t too happy with it. I think they also felt that it’s kind of artificial, I mean, to do something.

Reiner Fuellmich  24:22

It’s like dancing with the devil.

Viviane Fischer  24:24

I know. But like it’s a very artificial approach, you know.

Reiner Fuellmich  24:27

When did it become acceptable to push vaccination via TikTok?

Reiner Fuellmich  24:32

Yeah.

Sally Beck  24:33

I mean, Ariana Grande is a big star in the US and James Corden who’s British but also quite a big star in the US, they’ve released a video urging people to get vaccinated and Ariana Grande is very popular with young children and teenagers. So that will be why they’ve done that, but the one last thing I want to say on children. So just to make clear that no under eighteens have been vaccinated here as far as I know, and the JCVI have not passed the vaccine yet for under eighteens, but it is summer and traditionally summer you would not expect to see respiratory infections, particularly to the level that accidents and emergency is overwhelmed.

Reiner Fuellmich  25:35

Well, the thing is Sally that we’re going to hear a little bit more about this a little later in today’s session about the agenda that is actually being hidden behind this Corona pandemic, which is the true goal of those people who are responsible for this because that’s the conclusion we’ve come to thus far that this is not about health, it never has been about health, but this is about the great reset or whatever you want to call it. And so what we believe is now going on this is the calm before the storm, I think in the fall, spring and winter, fall, winter and spring when respiratory illnesses come back the flu comes back, I think it has never gone It was relabeled and made into the Coronavirus. But when these things come back then the smirking smile of Bill and Melinda Gates will come true because they already announced that there will be another virus and people this time will take it seriously. So I think the worst is yet to come. That’s why we have to make good use of this calm before the storm and get ready to really fight back. I think that’s going on right now. I can’t tell you about the details. But pretty soon towards the middle of next month or so there will be good news out there as far as the legal efforts are concerned. But you’re right, now that it’s summer they have a hard time to keep up the panic. The only thing they can do because there are no cases. Even with the PCR tests, it’s kind of hard to generate more cases because more and more people are beginning to understand and this is now even the mainstream media here that PCR test cannot tell you anything about infections. So what they do is they try to keep up the illusion and that’s why they tell you about the Delta variant and all the other variants, the umpteenth variant which is going to really kill you. But it is just an illusion, but most people don’t understand about this.

Sally Beck  27:43

No, I mean, even intellectuals, if you try and explain, and I’ve tried to explain to journalists, I’ve tried to explain to my, you know, very intelligent friends. You know, people can’t take it in, because to take in, what we’re saying is to then realise that there is some kind of hidden agenda. And there is something really awful going on, and that is just too much to stomach. But before we wrap up, I just really like to talk about mainstream media. So I began reporting on the MMR vaccine back in 1999. And the last piece I wrote about the MMR was 2010. So I wrote two pieces. One was an interview with Dr. Andrew Wakefield, and it was a double page spread in the Mail on Sunday. And the other one was a front page of the Mail on Sunday. And it was a report that a boy had received. I think he’d received 80 or 90,000 pounds from the vaccine damage payment unit. It had taken his parents 18 years to prove that the MMR vaccine had destroyed their son’s health. And I was asked on the Saturday that that story, before the story came out, to come in and might the comment piece for it. And I wrote a comment and I wrote why it was possible for vaccines to damage. And like I say that was a front page story and the Mail on Sunday, I suppose had the second or third highest circulation in the UK. It’s the top middle market newspaper. On the Monday, The Guardian had a headline, the vaccine myth that won’t die. So although our government had admitted that this boy had been damaged by the MMR, The Guardian reported that the MMR damaged by the MMR was a myth, even though the government had paid out for it. So that’s after, and after Dr. Andrew Wakefield was struck off, it became impossible almost to get vaccine damage stories in the paper, although we have seen stories about narcolepsy connected with the swine flu. We have had stories reported that although 60 severely injured adults and children, so we have 54 children, six health care workers who’ve been awarded a million pounds in damages because of the swine flu vaccine. It’s been reported that they haven’t received their money and the government keep taking them back to court in order to try not to pay out that money. So that’s being reported. The Daily Mail did report the triple deaths in the care homes, but they didn’t speculate that it could have been connected to the vaccine. The latest story that I sent round to all the media, you might have heard of Dr. Sam White, he was an NHS doctor, he was a partner in his practice in Hampshire, and when he heard that they were starting to test the vaccine on children, he knew that he couldn’t stay within the system. So he resigned his partnership. Somebody tweeted when are doctors going to stand up and talk about these crimes against humanity? And he thought, he took it to heart and e made a video, which explains why he’d resigned from the NHS. And he explained about the PCR tests, and he explained about the vaccine damage that he’d seen in his practice. So although he left in March, he’d already seen eight patients with side effects from the vaccine, one who was hospitalised and in fact, this man who was in his 50s had already had Coronavirus so he didn’t need the vaccine. But he was given it anyway because nobody looked at his notes in the hub that he went to to get his vaccination. And he ended up in hospital, but he was released after 24 hours. Anyway, I thought, you know, this is a really valuable story, I think that [it] is something that mainstream media might like, and I sent it probably to six newspapers and I didn’t even get a rejection slip. I didn’t hear anything about it at all. So I have written that story. It will be in The Conservative Woman tomorrow or Sunday. I’ve written about the British Airways pilots, which is in The Conservative Woman today. British Airways are refusing to deny that their pilots had had the vaccination and Reuters fact checked article has taken their statement which says these deaths were not connected and they didn’t happen within seven days as an admission by British Airways that they didn’t have the vaccine but actually it wasn’t, they will not admit whether or not the four pilots that have died, and we only know the symptoms for one of them and he had a haemorrhage in his gut. We don’t know yet whether that has been caused by his vaccination, but they were all fit, apart from the one pilot in his 60s who’d been in hospital for 243 days with Coronavirus. If he was given the vaccination on top of that, on top of the fact that his system was very weak then it’s absolutely plausible, antibody dependent enhancement caused his death. I’ve said to British Airways how important this is that this is investigated. I spoke to the pilots union who said they haven’t investigated because as far as they’re concerned, it’s fake news. I think now that they, you know, now they know that three pilots consulted lawyers early on in February, because they were scared that British Airways was pushing them to get the vaccination. And I can’t confirm that reports that 80 percent of British Airways pilots have received the vaccination, but that potentially leaves only 10 percent of the pilots fit to fly if thrombosis, deep vein thrombosis can be an adverse effect of the vaccine for them.

Reiner Fuellmich  35:42

Okay, let me translate that. Dr. Andrew Wakefield, by the way, I know that they’re making him into a conspiracy theorist, but everything I’ve seen his videos, he looks like a very level headed and sounds like a very level headed and intelligent human being. I don’t get it, but in the meantime, we know, of course, that anyone who is not in line with the government, meaning the vaccine industry, is of course a conspiracy theorist.

Reiner Fuellmich  36:11

Yeah, I mean I’ve interviewed him many times. We’ve talked a lot. And one thing that struck me when I interviewed him was that he was 100 percent prepared to show you his data to show you how he came to his conclusions. And that was one thing I never got from the government, and still I’m not getting, so I’ve asked for the raw data from Pfizer. And I’ve asked by freedom of information, and I’ve been told no. And I can tell you now that the figures that I quoted are an under estimate. So this is from the government website. So we have three in five UK adults have had both doses of the vaccine. That’s over 60 percent have had two doses of the vaccine, and 82.5 percent have had one dose of the vaccine.

Reiner Fuellmich  37:25

However, that may be propaganda. You never know you never know.

Sally Beck  37:29

It may be propaganda. It may be, but we have our accidents and emergency services being overwhelmed in the summer, that just does not happen.

Reiner Fuellmich  37:41

Yeah.

Vivienne  37:42

But you know what it could also be that you get more like respiratory problems, because now at this point, I assume it’s also the same same thing in England, that for the first time now, after all these social distancing things, you know, more and more people meet. And of course, you have some, you know, kind of maybe like a summer flu or something going around. And now it’s misinterpreted, and also with the masks, you know, that you have on your face all the time, that’s not, you know, providing for a good climate, anti infection, I think it’s, you know, I mean, you’re kind of breeding the germs and whatever right in front of your face. That might also be a problem. And we’ve talked, we’ve talked to Dr. Wolfgang about this idea, you know, that you’dy have these variants running through the population now popping up at that, you know, the younger children, it’s kind of an unlikely that you’d have like something that’s more violent coming out of this, like, you know, processing through the the population. So I don’t know, I don’t think it’s really a variant.

Reiner Fuellmich  38:50

We have to take it, I think we have to take this with a grain of salt, but of course, the government is always trying to make vaccines look as though everyone wants them. That’s why I believe they are fiddling with with the numbers. But I’m, of course, I’m going to translate this. So you’re you’re saying you’re writing about mRNA, but not in terms of mRNA being used as vaccines, but rather as genetic interference, I guess you could call it for people who are more or less terminally ill and have no other choice, or was that in another context?

Reiner Fuellmich  39:35

So I haven’t really talked about that, but what we think is happening with people is that they are suffering antibody dependent enhancement. And then, you know, people who are dying from the vaccine, who’ve already had COVID or who are elderly, we think that’s what’s causing the death. But I haven’t written about the mechanics of the vaccination.

Reiner Fuellmich  40:05

Okay.

Sally Beck  40:06

So I’ve been focusing on the government agencies and what they’re telling us, what the BBC are telling us and the human stories that, you know, the people who are casualties of this.

Reiner Fuellmich  40:20

Okay? I was just saying, who benefits from this story about the pilots not being able to fly, because we’ve seen, and I’ve spoken to people who are, actually to pilots the German pilots, but also to people in Canada and in India, they’re telling us the same story that so many pilots are experiencing severe adverse effects after getting vaccinated that it’s going to be really hard to keep the planes up in the air. So who’s going to fly these planes? On the one hand, these stories, of course, I think they serve a double purpose, really, on the one hand, and this is good for us is it makes people even more reluctant to get vaccinated. But at the same time, of course, who wants to get on a plane without being certain that the pilots, the two people who are sitting in the front haven’t gotten vaccinated? Because it’s probably okay, if out of 400 passengers 200 drop dead after getting vaccinated, but it’s not okay if the two pilots who fly the plane drop dead. So I think this is, there’s again an agenda going on in the background, which we cannot really discern what it is about.

Reiner Fuellmich  41:34

No, it means that, you know, as citizens, we’re grounded, pretty much in our own country. And we saw, you know, one of the first stories was about cruise ships with everybody contracting Coronavirus. So we won’t want to be sailing either. So, you know, we’re effectively grounded, aren’t we. It could also be, you know, I like to look at all possible scenarios, it could be that obviously the vaccine wasn’t tested properly, you know, it could be an unforeseen reaction that they weren’t expecting. But who knows, I just actually, I knew I’d done some research on how many doses of vaccine that the government have bought, and they sent me a document which showed and it’s a billion, a billion doses. So we’re a population of 67 million. So it’s entirely possible that those figures are accurate. And I know that there has been a tremendous push. And I know, so many people who’ve been vaccinated who normally would not have bothered, they don’t get the flu vaccine. They got vaccinated for two reasons, because they wanted to open up the country again, and they wanted to be able to travel. And that is also a real problem for young adults. You know, there’s many foreign universities. They want to go travelling during their summer holidays, and they’re 20 year olds. When we opened vaccination to 18 year olds plus 700,000 18 to 24 year olds booked their vaccination in one day.

Reiner Fuellmich  43:36

I’ll translate that –

Sally Beck  43:37

– the system it overloaded the system.

Reiner Fuellmich  43:38

And now that they’ve gotten vaccinated, they’re still grounded. That’s the really curious side effect. Because you know, many people who got vaccinated, who initially believe now we’re going to have a norm, we’re gonna get our normal lives back, and then they’re being told no, you’re going to have to keep wearing a mask, no, you’re going to have to keep social distancing. Oh, no, you can get on a plane, because they’re grounded. So what I think Sally in order to come to a conclusion here, what I do firmly believe is that they have lost control, no matter how you interpret what’s going on. But they have lost control over the adverse effects. And of course, over the narrative, because this is entering the mainstream media, part of it may be manufactured, may be out there in order to manipulate us, but I think a large part is they’re losing control. That’s why they’re panicking, and that’s why they’re pushing so extremely hard and running into a brick wall in the United States and in other parts of the world, as well. But we have to keep on fighting.

Reiner Fuellmich  44:42

I think you’re right and thank you so much for doing this. If anybody wants to ask me a question before I go, feel free.

Vivienne  45:04

Yes.

Vivienne  45:05

I have just one small questions, two small questions. One is, with this 1 billion doses that they bought, that seems to be so I mean, absolutely out of proportion, you know, considering your population. Do you think that’s something corrupt? Because I mean, even if you were thinking about like, by getting people vaccinated later on again, you know, now that they’re already discussing that this version of the vaccine might not work with variant x, y, z. You know, I think why would they stock [up] on that?

Reiner Fuellmich  45:38

Yeah I think it’s about boosters. It’s about having enough to vaccinate the population, about four times. So a billion here is 100 million. I think it’s about you know, making sure that they’ve got plenty of stocks for boosters, and they’ve also got plenty of stocks for the children.

Vivienne  45:57

And with regards to the BBC, do you think that I mean, I don’t know are you in direct contact with journalists, like colleagues or something? I mean, do you think it’s like on all levels, that they’re buying this, or like, that they’re bought or buying the story or are there some who have have doubts about it, and just cannot report the way they want?

Sally Beck  46:19

I’m not in touch with any BBC journalists. But what I can tell you is that the last two rallies, the protests that we had in London, and there’s another one this Saturday. Huge crowds gathered outside the BBC in central London. So it has two London offices, ones in central London, ones in West London, and outside the central London offices, people were just chanting liars, liars, liars. There was a huge sort of police presence and barricades to stop any protesters getting into the building. The police had riot gear. And, you know, if you challenge them, they have to back down. So the two times that I know that they’ve been challenged, they’ve had to edit the programme that they already aired the two programmes that they’d already aired. The only way you can complain to the BBC is actually to the BBC. And obviously, they come back and say, oh, I’m sorry, you’re terribly disappointed, but we think we did great. You can take it to the regulator called Ofcom, but you never hear back from Ofcom. And they publish the findings of their complaints. And they never admonish any of the main broadcasters. It’s always local broadcasters.

Reiner Fuellmich  48:06

I’ve seen videos in which they made BBC into British Brainwashing Corporation. So that’s what liars liars liars is about. Right.

Sally Beck  48:17

Yeah

Reiner Fuellmich  48:18

Okay, Sally, this was great. It was on the one hand discouraging, on the other hand, encouraging because, I mean, there’s two huge rallies and nobody knows about this in the rest of Europe.

Sally Beck  48:32

Really?

Reiner Fuellmich  48:35

Yeah, I mean, of course we know about it because –

Sally Beck  48:38

– well I posted on my social media this weekend. I posted on my social media. The BBC reported the first one that there was 350 people, there was probably about 500,000. But we do have a channel here called, we have a channel here called Not on the Beeb. So, yeah, so people are reporting that everything that the BBC isn’t, but thank you so much. Reiner. It’s been a pleasure. If you would like me to ask Andrew Wakefield to come and talk to you, I’m very happy to do that.

Reiner Fuellmich  49:15

We would very much appreciate that, yes.

Sally Beck  49:17

Okay. I’ll ask him. I’m sure he would be delighted.

Reiner Fuellmich  49:21

Okay, Sally thank you so much.

Sally Beck  49:23

Thanks very much.

Reiner Fuellmich  49:24

And have a great weekend.

Sally Beck  49:25

Thank you. Bye bye.

Reiner Fuellmich  49:26

Bye bye.

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